Need help adding a movie trailer.

[Z]

Hi.

I have V For Vendetta. Disc 2 (the bonus disc) has a theatrical trailer on it. Elsewhere, I found a second trailer for the movie that's slightly different from the first one and I'd like to add it too, to play right after the first trailer when that option is selected off the menu.

I've been trying the simple, straightforward "Copy PGC/Append copied PGC" method, but I've encountered some problems:

Problem 1
The audio track for Trailer #1 is in track 1 whereas,
The audio track for Trailer #2 is in track 5.

So, picking one track or the other for the PGC, makes the other play silently.

Problem 2
Trailer #1's video format is Wide (16:9) Conversion to 4:3 "letterbox" checked
Trailer #2's video format is Normal (4:3)

So, obviously they can't co-exist together appended in the same PGC.

I tried creating a new VTS (VTS #3) and have that contain Trailer #2 and have the program jump or call that VTS right after Trailer #1 finishes playing. Alas, I haven't been able to put the correct programming commands (in Pre Commands or Post Commands) to accomplish this.

Can you help me out, toaddub?

Here are two Test Exports to look at. The first is the original way Disc 2 looks. The second is with my created VTS #3 but without any programming commands added. The scenes are cut to 10 seconds. If you need them longer, let me know.

http://rapidshare.com/files/148077141/V_FOR_VENDETTA_D2_original.rar

http://rapidshare.com/files/148080916/V_FOR_VENDETTA_D2_with_2nd_trailer.rar

[Senior]

Hi Z

You are quite far with the project, it would be a shame not to finish it and learn on the way.

You have new VTS with Title PGC in it.
To go from one VTS to other, you have to go through VMG manager.
Create new PGC in VMG menu and create new Title in VMG Title which will be your #3VTS Title.
Than in post command of your #1Trailer go to newly created PGC in VMG menu domain, in that PGC- Pre Command- go to your new title in VMG title domain.
That is it.
To get back to your main menu from #2Trailer in #3VTS you will have to go back to VMG menu PGC and from there to the menu.
There should be one PGC there which point to the menu already.
You can always create new one and go from there.
One more thing. In #3VTS Title PGC Pre Command set audio to track #5
otherwise it will default to 0.

You did OK because you cannot have 4:3 and 16:9 in one VTS. Not
allowed.

This is general instruction, because I do not have Remake on this machine to check your file.

[Z]

Thanks for the reply and help, Senior.

I see what you're talking about to have to go through the Video Manager at the top of the tree and I do know of the command to "Add Title(s)". I've already tried adding another VMG Title to the list ("VMG title 11") before in my attempts to get this to work, but I haven't been able to put in the correct programming commands.

I thought I could make some better sense out of these programming commands, but they aren't really that clear as to how to actually code them. I know programming languages like BASIC and batch file commands, but these commands in DVD authoring seem much more complicated to me. I tried many commands that I thought would work like "jump" or "call" or whatnot, but they haven't worked as I thought they would to do the simple task I'm seeking to do.

Why is it so hard to simply tell the program to run Trailer #2 after it finishes playing through Trailer #1, then return to the menu that launched the "Theatrical Trailer" menu choice in the first place? It seems like it should be a very simple command to introduce into the code.

Do you know the commands I have to put in to do what I seek to do? If so, can you type them out for me and also tell me where they need to go?


VMG Titles



VTS2 Pre Commands __ VTS2 Post Commands



VTS3 Pre Commands __ VTS3 Post Commands

[toaddub]

Let's just start from the beginning.

1. For the Trailer #2, I would first demux the video and audio stream with Pgcdemux and mux it back with MuxMan. This would move the audio stream id 0x85 to be 0x80 and be on the first track position. This will eliminate the need to use the SetSTN command.
   
   
2. Import the MuxMan trailer #2 as project 2.
   
3. Copy the VTS from project 2 and add it to project 1 (the original). This will be VTS 3.
   
4. In project 1, go to VMG Titles pane and 'Add Title(s)' for VTS 3. This will be VMG Title 11.
   
5. Duplicate VMG PGC 2. A VMG PGC 3 is created.
   
6. In VMG PGC 3, change the Jump command to jump to VMG Title 11. This is used as a bridge to jump from VTS 2 to VTS 3.
   
7. Now in VTS2/Program Chains/PGC1, copy all post commands and paste them into VTS3/Program Chains/PGC1/Post Commands pane.
   
8. Copy the pre-command in VTS2 Root menu and replace it over VTS3 Root Menu. If you don't do this, by default, MuxMan creates a command to play the same title again if you press Root menu on the remote. By replacing the command from VTS2, you're ensured that the Root menu button behaves the same as the Title menu button as the command suggests.
   
9. Finally to connect the link between VTS2 and VTS3, in VTS2/Program Chains/PGC1, change the last post command to "Call VMG PGC 3 (resume cell 1)".

And you're done!

[Senior]

Command in Remake are pretty straight forward, you do not have to know Basic or any other language. DVD commands are language of there own.

Once to command window open, you can use JUMP/CALL than select
VMG PGC your#. This will be in post of Trailer2
Once there use JUMP/CALL VMG Title Your #. This will be in Pre of your created PGC in VMG.

You can go here to see what each command will do and where it can be used.

http://www.dvd-replica.com/DVD/nop.php

It is not that hard and once you know, you will really appreciate power of Remake.

I will look at your file tonigth to see.

P.S.
I guess toaddub dit it for you.

[toaddub]

Thanks, Senior, for the assistance. Much appreciated. Sometimes I was just too busy to respond in time.

btw, DVD commands are a lot easier than Basic. There's not much to learn. Once you know the DVD structure and its common terminology, the commands are a piece of cake.

[Z]

Thanks for the assistance toaddub and Senior. Your help here is invaluable!!!

I edited my post above and added some screen captures of the VMG Titles, Pre Commands and Post Commands for the VTSs that contain Trailer #1 and Trailer #2.

So, toaddub, I should go your route to demux/mux the DVD and change the audio track from 5 to 0 and all the rest of the instructions you so generously typed there for me. Correct?

Or is Senior's suggestion better or easier or whatnot, the way I should go? What do you think?

Also, thanks Senior for the link to explain the DVD commands. I'll save that for reference.

Thanks too, toaddub for saying that DVD commands are easier than BASIC commands. I really would like to become an expert understanding the DVD coding commands. It really is fun and satisfying to alter the way the DVDs function in the final compilation.

[Senior]

[toaddub]

Both of us say the same thing, except the demux/mux part. Just follow mine as I already laid out the steps. Shouldn't be hard to follow.

[toaddub]

[Senior]

[Z]

[Senior]

In PgcDemux, check video also.
Once done, open Muxman an import video and audio file. For audio file import what you want to play first as Audio1, if you have more streams then click on audio to get#2 and import next and so on.
If you have subtitles do the same as with audio streams.Than compile.

To your third question.
Sometime player will look for first audio available, so even if it is in stream #5 and other streams are empty than it will play the stream. Otherwise default is always first stream (Stream 0).
But if you have them in same VTS, than it could be a problem.
That why it is better to issue command to play what you want.
If you play in Remake, you most likely check stream #5 in audio pop up window, than it will play.
Remake does not play audio unless you highlight the stream, or you are in Debug mode.

My question to you.
You said that you used Muxman to do .bmp file into video. I tried that once and video was awful. Colours all over the place.
What version of Muxman do you have and did you check anything extra?

[Senior]

Hi Z
You better use Muxman and replace VTS3 with that file, like toaddub say.
I do not know how you managed that, but on your existing file you have in VTS3 title audio Track0-Stream5.
I could not get it to play no matter what I tried.
After Muxman everything is OK.

[Z]

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