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julius Senior Member

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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: Bug in chapter selection menu.. |
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Hi
When I enter chapter selection menu from main menu, I can't see all selection markers on the screen??? Some look strange som buttons does not highlight. It works on software players but not in any of the standalone players I've tried.
If I press enter (even though the selected botton is invisible) and I return to the first chapter selection window afterwards, then it work.
The error lies somehow in menu pgc24, because after the 30 second playback it enters menu pgc25 and there it works great. i I tried copying the bottons from menu pgc25 over those in pg24 but that changed nothing
Please help - Here are the files for inspection:
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Thanx in advance
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toaddub Moderator

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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| There's something wrong in that chapter menu in the Letterbox mode only. Copying the buttons over won't help. The easy solution is to just blank menu pgc 24 as it automatically jumps to menu pgc 25 so you only have one instance of this menu. |
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julius Senior Member

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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| toaddub wrote: | | There's something wrong in that chapter menu in the Letterbox mode only. Copying the buttons over won't help. The easy solution is to just blank menu pgc 24 as it automatically jumps to menu pgc 25 so you only have one instance of this menu. |
Can you tell me how to fix it if its not too complicated. When hiding menu pgc 24 unfortunately it also hides the "fade out" sequence which is only located in pgc24. Menu pgc25 is strait to chapter selection with no "fade out".
Not that its a big issue, but if it could be fixed that would be prefferred.
I tried to have a look at it in the menu function in pgcedit, but I found nothing strange...
Thx
/Julius |
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toaddub Moderator

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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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ok, since the button (subpic) highlights are messed up in pgc24, you would need to get the button highlights from pgc25 over to pgc24. Here are the steps:
Tools used: PgcDemux, MuxMan
- Create a temporary 'menu' folder as working folder. I would put it at the same level as VIDEO_TS folder.
- In PgcDemux, for Input IFO choose VTS_01_0.IFO and Output folder to 'menu'. Mode is "by PGC". Check only 'Demux video stream' and 'Demux all audio streams'. In the PGC Selection, choose Menus domain and select 'LU 1 #24'. This is menu PGC 24. Hit 'Process!' button.
- Then choose 'LU 1 # 25'. This is menu PGC 25. Select only 'Demux all subpic streams'. Hit 'Process!' button. There should be 2 subpic .sup files.
- Now in MuxMan, choose the video file created by PgcDemux, namely VideoFile.m2v. Audio would be AudioFile_80.ac3. For Subpictures, choose Subpictures_20.sup and select Wide button. This is for Stream 1. Now select Stream 2 (mini vertical scrollbar), choose Subpictures_21.sup and select LB button. You should see that Track 1 shows as "W 20 LB 21". Choose Destination folder to 'menu' folder. Hit Start button.
- In DRMP, menu pgc24, preview window, select 'Export buttons' and save as menupgc24.mbl in 'menu' folder. Also export the color schemes as well.
- In Programs pane, select 'Replace block', hit 'Load...' button and select VTS_01_1.VOB created by MuxMan - this should be in 'menu' folder as well. Hit OK 2x, ignoring the warning.
- Since there are now no buttons defined, you would import the buttons back. Preview window/'Import buttons'/choose menupgc24.mbl. Also, import the color schemes back in.
And you're done.
btw, I notice in all the chapter menus, buttons 1,4,7,10 do not have the desired left and right button links. I'd suggest you fix them to have smooth button direction flow. |
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julius Senior Member

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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, it almost worked for me. Only thing is, that when I import the bottons back in, the bottons are visible troughout all 30 seconds. On the orginal they first appear after 3-4 seconds. On the orginal it seems i can see "set1" and "set2" bottons in the buttom of the screen. But on the "backup" there is only "set1". That might be the problem...
Is there something I have over-seen. I believe i followed the guide straight to the end including the "2 subtitles adding" in Muxman.
I used these versions.
PgcDemux v1.2.0.5
Muxman_0_16_6
/Eriksen76
| toaddub wrote: | ok, since the button (subpic) highlights are messed up in pgc24, you would need to get the button highlights from pgc25 over to pgc24. Here are the steps:
Tools used: PgcDemux, MuxMan
- Create a temporary 'menu' folder as working folder. I would put it at the same level as VIDEO_TS folder.
- In PgcDemux, for Input IFO choose VTS_01_0.IFO and Output folder to 'menu'. Mode is "by PGC". Check only 'Demux video stream' and 'Demux all audio streams'. In the PGC Selection, choose Menus domain and select 'LU 1 #24'. This is menu PGC 24. Hit 'Process!' button.
- Then choose 'LU 1 # 25'. This is menu PGC 25. Select only 'Demux all subpic streams'. Hit 'Process!' button. There should be 2 subpic .sup files.
- Now in MuxMan, choose the video file created by PgcDemux, namely VideoFile.m2v. Audio would be AudioFile_80.ac3. For Subpictures, choose Subpictures_20.sup and select Wide button. This is for Stream 1. Now select Stream 2 (mini vertical scrollbar), choose Subpictures_21.sup and select LB button. You should see that Track 1 shows as "W 20 LB 21". Choose Destination folder to 'menu' folder. Hit Start button.
- In DRMP, menu pgc24, preview window, select 'Export buttons' and save as menupgc24.mbl in 'menu' folder. Also export the color schemes as well.
- In Programs pane, select 'Replace block', hit 'Load...' button and select VTS_01_1.VOB created by MuxMan - this should be in 'menu' folder as well. Hit OK 2x, ignoring the warning.
- Since there are now no buttons defined, you would import the buttons back. Preview window/'Import buttons'/choose menupgc24.mbl. Also, import the color schemes back in.
And you're done.
btw, I notice in all the chapter menus, buttons 1,4,7,10 do not have the desired left and right button links. I'd suggest you fix them to have smooth button direction flow. |
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toaddub Moderator

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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| Didn't know there are 2 sets of buttons. Since you still the menus, there's only 1 set and that's what I see. Well, I don't know how to make it back to set 1 and 2 like the original as it is defined in the menu VOB, but there's another way. Go to the Buttons pane, double-click on the top portion of the pane, and change the Highlights start to 3 or 4 sec. If you don't see the highlight info, check the 'Show buttons segment info' in Options/Format/Buttons pane. Upon playback, highlighting of button won't start until number of specified seconds. Hope this helps. |
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julius Senior Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Ok, sorry about it. I only tried to fix the full archive that I have. Will try your tip tonight (+12 hours) and tell you how it went
/Julius
| toaddub wrote: | | Didn't know there are 2 sets of buttons. Since you still the menus, there's only 1 set and that's what I see. Well, I don't know how to make it back to set 1 and 2 like the original as it is defined in the menu VOB, but there's another way. Go to the Buttons pane, double-click on the top portion of the pane, and change the Highlights start to 3 or 4 sec. If you don't see the highlight info, check the 'Show buttons segment info' in Options/Format/Buttons pane. Upon playback, highlighting of button won't start until number of specified seconds. Hope this helps. |
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| toaddub wrote: | | There's something wrong in that chapter menu in the Letterbox mode only. Copying the buttons over won't help. The easy solution is to just blank menu pgc 24 as it automatically jumps to menu pgc 25 so you only have one instance of this menu. |
Hi taoddub
This is just my curiosity.
How did you figured out that there is something wrong with PGC24.
I ran that file in Remake and PgcEdit, only think I see that all menus in other PGC behave the same way.
That is that the highlights in PgcEdit are twice the size in upper row for letterbox, but in Remake coordinates are same for wide screen and letterbox. |
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toaddub Moderator

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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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I look in DVDRMP and PgcEdit as well and don't see anything wrong with it. Both DVDRMP and PgcEdit do not show button highlights so we don't know how it is. The only way is to play the DVD. Playing it in software player does not exhibit the problem described since it's playing in Widescreen mode. So I burn it to RW and see the highlights are messed up in Letterbox mode, like julius described. There are no highlights on quite a few buttons in pgc24. Then I use DvdSubEdit to extract the subpic of the problem menu and it's all white, so that's not right. Subrip somehow cannot extract any of the chapter subpics either.
So to fix this, since pgc25 has no problem with highlighting, get the subpic from pgc25 and copy over to pgc24 using PgcDemux and MuxMan. I was going to use DvdSubEdit, but it's not outputting what I expect. |
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| toaddub wrote: | | So I burn it to RW and see the highlights are messed up in Letterbox mode, like julius described. |
Thanks
That is what I thought, you had done. |
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julius Senior Member

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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| julius wrote: | Ok, sorry about it. I only tried to fix the full archive that I have. Will try your tip tonight (+12 hours) and tell you how it went
/Julius
| toaddub wrote: | | Didn't know there are 2 sets of buttons. Since you still the menus, there's only 1 set and that's what I see. Well, I don't know how to make it back to set 1 and 2 like the original as it is defined in the menu VOB, but there's another way. Go to the Buttons pane, double-click on the top portion of the pane, and change the Highlights start to 3 or 4 sec. If you don't see the highlight info, check the 'Show buttons segment info' in Options/Format/Buttons pane. Upon playback, highlighting of button won't start until number of specified seconds. Hope this helps. |
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This movie is getting me on my nerves. I did everything right.... I think. The buttons seems to work fine now in my standalone player, but it hightlights buttons all the way from the beginning. Even though I entered a 4 second delay...
To explain in details, the "button markers / hightlights" a graphically speaking some "crosses". They appear on the screen at the very beginning of the menu, even though the chapter squares to be selected are visible after 4 seconds. Meaning it looks strange during playback on standalone players.
This time I encluded a larger archive with "no stills", maby you can see what is wrong.. It works fine i powerdvd.
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/Julius
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Julius
I just tried your file in PowerDVD player and it looks like it works fine.
The button highlights do not come on until motion squares are on and have some delay.
May be try to burn it on RW and play in DVD player. |
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julius Senior Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: | Julius
I just tried your file in PowerDVD player and it looks like it works fine.
The button highlights do not come on until motion squares are on and have some delay.
May be try to burn it on RW and play in DVD player. |
Yes, It works in software players like Powerdvd, but not in standalone players
/Julius |
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Did you try to split the cell and delete highlights in first part? |
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julius Senior Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| How do I split the cell?? The option is "grey'ed" out in program mode, when I right click on the menu pgc24 preview. It seems that splitting a menu cell is not possible. |
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